Thursday, March 5, 2009

Because They Came Back


I’m getting sick of being so surprised by LOST each and every week. I mean, the show’s unpredictability is becoming way too predictable. One week, just once, I wish they’d mix things up and leave me saying, “Wow, I wasn’t surprised at all by this episode…that one was completely expected…and obvious...and boring.”

Okay, I didn’t mean a word of that. But the real point is, they surprised my pants off (I’m not sure that’s a real saying…and it probably shouldn’t be) yet again.

Season 5—Episode 8: “LaFleur”

Now that the island is finally done jumping, the producers and writers decided to flash three years forward, three years back, three years forward, and back and forward again. But in this recap, I’m going to eschew LOST’s time-flashiness. That’s right, I’m going to do something absurd: tell the story CHRONOLOGICALLY. Starting with the moment when Locke stopped the flashing island, I’ll recap this episode, flashing forward just one unavoidable time.

I would say the LOST writers are happy to be back on the island again. This episode might have included more witty dialogue than the preceding episodes of Season 5 combined (how can “hootenanny” be anything but hilarious?). But then again, maybe the Sawyer-focused episode had something to do with that.

So in the beginning, the first shocker: Jin points, directing the others’ attention to the back of a large (four-toed?) statue. Seeing only its back, we still don’t know anything about its origin, but I think it’s safe to assume it wasn’t Dharma’s work. Hostiles, maybe. Dharma, don’t think so.

So we begin, episodically and chronologically, with Sawyer, Jin, Miles, and Juliet. First of all, our foursome realizes that this flash was different somehow, “more like an earthquake,” in the words of Miles Straume. And they realize their headaches and nosebleeds are gone. And the well is back! So Sawyer screams Locke’s name, grabs the rope, and leaps over the lip of the well…only to find it filled with dirt.

They decide that Locke must have been successful, and so they traipse back the way from which they came. And they find Daniel, sitting alone on the ground.

Sawyer: Where’s Red?

Charlotte is nowhere to be found, but Daniel keeps saying things like, “I’m not going to do it. I’m not going to tell her.”

He pauses long enough to tell them that Charlotte died and when they flashed, “her body…just disappeared.”

Daniel: She moved on, and we stayed.
Sawyer: …you’re telling me, it’s over?
Daniel: Wherever we are, whenever we are, we’re here for good.
(Note: I think it's more likely they're "here for awhile," but not "for good." But I guess we'll see.)

Then Daniel goes back into his “I’m not gonna…I won’t…” routine, prompting Sawyer to say, “Until Dan checks back in, let’s go back to the beach.”

I think Daniel is remembering his final exchange with Charlotte, when she remembered (a question for later will be, why did she only remember it then) that a “crazy, scary man” told her that if she left the island, she’d die if she ever came back, and he’s decided that this time, if he sees her, he’s not going to tell her. For one thing, it didn’t help. And two, maybe he wants to see if it’s possible to change things—by not telling her—so that she might live, or so that, if she still must die, she won’t think of him, on her deathbed, as the scary man who spooked her as a child.

Much to Miles’ sarcasm and chagrin, Sawyer assumes the role of leader—and Miles reluctantly concedes, but only because Juliet is quick to play Bonnie to Sawyer’s Clyde. (If that reference doesn’t work, I apologize. I’ve never actually seen the movie, or show, or whatever it originally was.)

But our fivesome (now that Daniel has joined the jungle party) never makes it to the beach. They hear a woman in hysterics, and they see two armed men standing by her. She’s on her knees, and they’re about to put a bag over her head—a mafia-style offing. (How modern for these old-world Hostiles.) Her husband, a man named Paul, is already dead on the ground beside her.

Sawyer wants to do something to help, and Miles is nervous about this. Hoping Dan is still the man with the answers (as he was earlier this season), Miles asks him, “Dan, we don’t get involved, right? That’s what you said…”

Daniel responds, in a tone that reveals a total lack of interest (or shock), “It doesn’t matter what we do. Whatever happened happened.”

To which Sawyer replies, “Thanks a lot, Plato.” (Ah, welcome back, James.)

Striding out like the would-be hero, Sawyer raises his gun and commands the men to drop theirs. Instead of listening, one of them spins and fires. But Bonnie saves Clyde (that’s the last time with this analogy, I promise), gunning down Sawyer’s would-be killer. Sawyer has time to look incredulously at Juliet before he fires and takes down the other man.

Sawyer tells the woman she’s safe, and she, of course, wants to know who they are. At this, Sawyer the conman is resurrected. (Perhaps I should say he “resurfaces.” I don’t want to steal any of Locke’s thunder.) Sawyer talks about their ship wrecking on the way to Tahiti…but this woman—whose name is Amy—starts raving about a “truce” and the need to bury the two dead man. And, of course, they have to haul Paul’s dead body back to New Otherton, too.

Jin offers to carry Paul, and they hurriedly bury the two men.

As they’re hiking over to Otherburbs, Juliet suddenly screams, “Daniel, stop!” Daniel, his mind still elsewhere, has almost walked into the perimeter of the stroke-inducing fence.

Juliet unnerves Amy by demanding that she turn off the “sonic fence.” Amy asks them to tell her again where they said they were from. But they’re not interested in talking until they get back to her camp. Now Amy looks at them and (it was so apparent to me) seems to decide that she shouldn’t trust them. Not yet. So she pretends to turn the fence off, but she really just slips some earplugs in. So she walks through the fence unhindered, but when the fivesome follows her lead, they get knocked out by the fence’s sonic power.

(Time out: Okay, I understand why most of them fell for this little trick. But Juliet? Juliet? Not only does she have a history of not trusting people—does she trust anyone?—but hasn’t she also pulled a different variation of the same sonic-fence trick, back when she disabled it so she and Kate could get inside the barrier before the smoke monster slammed into the perimeter? So couldn't she have at least kept an eye on Amy to make sure she wasn’t up to anything funky? And don’t we think Juliet would have at least done that? Not to mention the fact that the earplug trick probably still existed thirty years later when Juliet was an Other. I just think she should have been savvy enough, and alert enough, to avoid getting hoodwinked like this. That's all.)

When Sawyer comes to, Horace Goodspeed is standing over him—of course, Sawyer doesn’t know who he is yet.

Among other things, while asking Sawyer where he and his people come from, Horace acknowledges that there are “hostile, indigenous people on the island” and the Dharmatians “don’t get along with them.” (Note: I liked the term “indigenous” in this description. It felt like a subtle acknowledgement on Horace’s part—saying that he understands that they were on the island long before the Dharma Initiative. This also interests me since Horace was the one who apparently built Jacob’s cabin, and Jacob has always seemed to be connected to the Hostiles, not the Dharma-ites. But I’ll have to ponder that a little longer.)

Conman Sawyer launches into old form again, and he is back, as the rappers of the early 90’s liked to say, in full effect. He claims to be the captain of a searcher vessel that he and his crew were using to locate a missing slave ship, the Black Rock. (When asked, Horace says he hasn’t heard of it. I think 1) he’s lying, because he wants to make sure Sawyer and friends leave the island posthaste or 2) he doesn’t know about the ship because he hasn’t strayed that far away from the Barracks. I’m leaning toward option 1.)

Sawyer assumes the name James LaFleur, and he tells Horace, “but you can call me Jim.” (Note: I realize that my chronological recap removes some of episode’s best surprises, like when the two Dharma men saw Horace blowing up trees and they went to get “LaFleur,” and shock: it’s Sawyer! But I realize the flaws inherent in this approach, and that’s why I’m relying on these parenthetical citations to recreate those shocking moments…clever, huh? No? Ah well, I tried.)

So Horace tells Sawyer that he and his friends will be on a submarine headed to Tahiti the following morning. This isn’t great news for them, since they plan to wait for Locke to return. But it’s certainly better treatment than they would have gotten from Ben 30 years later. Of course, even though the two groups have occupied the same living area, Horace’s Dharma-ites are not the same as Ben’s Hostile Others. I need to remind myself of this at times. Like right now.

Not that the Dharma folk don’t have their own secrets and idiosyncrasies. For example, Horace tells Sawyer in no uncertain terms, “I don’t want you to take this the wrong way, Jim, but please, you are not Dharma material.” Interesting. (Note: What is "Dharma material"?)

Sawyer shares the news with his friends, and then Daniel notices a cute little girl running around in a red dress, and for the first time, his face brightens: “Charlotte?”

Before we can really ponder this, sirens sound and security lights flash throughout the compound. Sawyer and friends are ushered into a house where they’re guarded at gunpoint by a woman (did they call her Heather?).

Outside the window, we see Richard Alpert walking—strutting, almost—into the center of the compound. Richard plants a lit torch in the ground and then strides about the empty compound like a tiger circling prey.

As they’re looking out the window at Richard, Juliet shuts her eyes in an “I do not like this” gesture, and then she turns to Sawyer, who meets her gaze with the words, “Uh-oh.”

Horace goes out to meet Richard, and says, “Hello, Mr. Alpert. If I had known you were coming, I could have turned the fence off for you.”

Richard’s response was almost menacing, “That fence may keep other things out, but not us. The only thing that does keep us out is that truce, which you’ve now broken.”

Horace plays dumb, but Richard asks point blank, “Where are my two men?”

Then we see Horace come indoors and he asks how well they buried the men. The answer isn’t reassuring, so he tells someone (Heather?) to “call the Arrow and let them know we’re at level one, and have the fence turned all the way up.”

And this is when ol’ Jim LaFleur takes charge, saying that he wants to talk to Richard. Horace doesn’t think that’s a good idea, but Sawyer says, “It’s a good thing I’m not asking then.”

Outside, Richard is seated casually on the bench (the same bench where Horace dies during The Purge, perhaps?). Sawyer strolls up and, almost as casually, offers a “Hello, Richard.”

Richard: I’m sorry, do we know each other?
Sawyer: I’m the guy who killed your men.

(Note: Did Richard meet Sawyer 20 years before this? In "Jughead"? I would have thought he would have recognized Daniel, at least, since Daniel was their purported leader at that time. Then again, Daniel was strangely absent for almost all of this episode, so I suppose Richard probably didn't see him.)

Surprisingly, Sawyer tells the truth about the events: seeing the woman with the bag over her head, the men with guns, the one guy already killed, Sawyer’s command that they put down their weapons, the shot fired at him, and the subsequent deaths of both Hostiles. (Of course, he doesn’t mention that Juliet killed the first one. But for a conman, that's still pretty darn close to the exact truth.)

Richard’s response: Do your people know you’re telling me this?
Sawyer: They ain’t my people, Hoss. (I couldn’t tell if he said “Hoss” or “Boss,” but since he calls Horace “Boss” a few times this episode, I prefer to think Alpert is “Hoss.”)

It’s kind of fun to see Richard flummoxed, isn't it? He says, “If you’re not a member of the Dharma Initiative, then who are you?”

Sawyer, has the perfect response:

“Did you bury the bomb?”

Sawyer provides details about the Jughead bomb, and then if that doesn’t completely befuddle Richard, Sawyer has some more ammunition:

“I also know a bald guy stumbled into your camp 20 years ago mumbling about being your leader and then poof, he disappeared. Any of that ringing a bell?” Sawyer lets that sink in for a moment. “That man’s name was John Locke, and I’m waiting for him to come back. Still think I’m a member of the Dharma Initiative?”

Richard’s convinced, but he says his people still need “some kind of justice,” so he asks Sawyer, “what are we gonna do about that?”

Apparently Richard decides that Paul’s dead body would suffice. (Just to prove to his people that they killed one of the DIs? That seemed weird to me. What does he need the body for? A Smoky sacrifice?)

Horace talks this over with Amy, and he says, “We’ve been friends for a long time…(Note: and if we were flashing ahead—which we clearly are not doing—we would know that Amy and Horace will be having a baby together in just three short years)…if you don’t want to give in to them, we’ll suffer the consequences.” (Note: Horace seems like a good guy. Just saying.)

Amy gives her consent, saying Paul “would want to keep us safe.”

This is all well and good, but it begs the question again, what did Amy and Paul do to deserve execution at the hands of the Hostiles? Did they violate the truce by leaving the perimeter? If that’s what caused this hullabaloo in the first place, and if Paul was really interested in keeping everyone safe, then what were they doing out there?!?

So after Sawyer’s dealings with Richard, Horace tells Sawyer that they don’t need to leave the next day. They can stay two weeks, which is when the sub will return again.

Sawyer shared this news with Juliet, but she’s not as thrilled as he is.

“I’ve been waiting to get off this island for three years, and now I’ve got my chance. I’m going to leave,” says Juliet.

Sawyer doesn’t want to accept this. “You realize it’s 1974, and whatever you think you’re going back to doesn’t really exist anymore.”

He goes on to say, “What about me? You really want to leave me here with the mad scientist and Mr. I-Talk-to-Dead-People. And Jin? He might be a great guy and all, but he isn’t the best conversationalist. Who’s going to get my back? Just give me two weeks; that’s all I’m asking.”
Juliet smiles and consents, “Alright, two weeks…”

And with that, we will fast-forward three years. Just this once.

We begin with two men working the night shift in a Dharma monitoring station, and they kickstarted this segment with some great quotes (you can find them below). They quickly discover that Horace is drinking—completely sloshed—and he’s hurling dynamite at trees. Which is funny, no, make that, hilarious. How often do you see mathematicians stumbling out of the jungle, drunk and hurling sticks of dynamite? Not often enough, I say.

So they go get Sawyer/Lafleur, and Sawyer and Miles go to retrieve Horace, who Sawyer refers to as their “fearless leader.”

Sawyer talks to Amy and learns that she and Horace had fought about Paul—her murdered husband now three years dead.

“Musta been a doozy,” Sawyer LaFleur says about their fight.

And then, suddenly, she’s going into labor…three weeks early.

We learned a couple things about Dharma’s history with childbirth in the days before pregnancy was fatal.

For example, the women always delivered on the mainland. (What mainland?) The sub takes the women to shore so that proper doctors can take care of them.

The obstetrician who shares these facts with LaFleur does not feel like he can perform the necessary Cesarean, so Sawyer LaFleur fetches Juliet.

(Time out: Was anyone else distracted by how clean Sawyer’s hair looks now that he’s been showering in New Otherton for three years? It was almost distracting, it looked so out of place—like a Pantene or Herbal Essences commercial or something. Or, more likely, Dharma 2-in-1 shampoo and conditioner.)

Juliet is reluctant, saying that “it doesn’t work” whenever she tries to help a woman give birth on that island.” But Sawyer persuades her with some encouraging words—and his dimples and shiny hair.

(Note: Jin showed up while Juliet was helping with the delivery, and his hair looked long and pretty and sort of Pantene-commercial-ish, too. I’m just saying…Sawyer’s hair was one thing, but he’s always had long hair. But why doesn’t Jin get a haircut? They don’t have scissors in the Otherburbs?)

Jin and Sawyer speak briefly and we learn that Jin has been searching grid points to see if they can find “their people.” Nothing yet.

Jin says, “How long do we look, James?” (Note: I can’t remember Jin calling him “James” before. But maybe that’s just because “Sawyer” isn’t his name right now.)

As if he’s our new “man of faith,” Sawyer responds, “As long as it takes.”

Then Juliet emerges from the house, crying—but happy. And Sawyer is all smiles and dimples and for her. And hair.

Oh, by the way, the baby is a boy. Which frustrated me, because I expected that to be baby Charlotte (although I blame the Todd for planting this misguided theory in my head last week—and it’s clearly all his fault). But a boy? Who could that be? (My first thought: Daniel Faraday…though I’m still trying to work out those logistics…but I’m going to cling to that theory until we see Daniel again. And so far, we haven’t.)

As if we weren’t completely convinced that Head and Shoulders Sawyer is hooking up with Dr. Juliet Burke, the next scene left no doubt:

Sawyer picks a yellow flower (la fleur, for those of you who parle francais) and smells it (out in the open, for all to see!) his dimples preening for the cameras once again. (Yes, his dimples were preening. I don’t know how, but it happened.) If Sawyer had seen Hurley or Charlie Pace doing something like this for Libby or Claire, he wouldn’t have let them hear the end of it—calling them Don Juan, or Casanova, or…Romeo. (ah, how fitting.)

Sawyer carries the flower into Juliet’s house (the same one she lived in for 3 years?), where there’s wine on the table and Juliet is making dinner.

Juliet: Is that for me?
Sawyer: You were amazing today.
Juliet: Thanks for believing in me.

And then they start kissing.

Juliet: I love you.
Sawyer: I love you, too.

And then they kiss and canoodle some more…but wait a second, did Sawyer just bust out the “L” word? That’s big-time. And if I thought Sawyer was sappy four episodes ago…wow, look at him now! But actually, I don’t mind romantic, sappy Sawyer. I just didn’t like lovesick, sappy, I-miss-Kate Sawyer.

Speaking of Kate, though she wasn’t mentioned by name, we all know Sawyer was talking about her when he convinced the recently-revived Horace that one can get over someone in just three years. Amy can get over Paul, because Sawyer got over that one girl—that girl whose face he can't even remember anymore. (Right...)

But if he’s really over Kate—completely over her—then why didn’t he tell Juliet where he was going when Jin called, prompting him to leave Juliet alone in bed without an explanation:

Juliet: Who was it?
Sawyer doesn’t respond.
Juliet: James!
Sawyer: It was Jin.
Juliet: Is everything okay?
Sawyer: Yeah…but, I gotta go.

Sawyer, wearing Dharma-issue coveralls and glasses, drives a blue jeep out to meet Jin. And the van pulls up and out climbs Hurley, Jack, and…a minute later…Kate.

Sawyer takes his glasses off, and Kate swallows, showing a little dimple of her own. But Sawyer doesn’t smile now…and he doesn’t look happy (or sappy) at all. Just conflicted. Uncomfortable.

Summary:
We saw a couple of characters resorting back to familiar roles: Daniel is back to a semi-coherent smart guy who operates (both mentally and physically) somewhat separately from everyone else. Meanwhile, Sawyer is back to being a feared man in camp, although still not quite the leader (with Horace serving as Sawyer’s new “Boss”). He’s got a pretty girl by his side, and by the time Kate climbs out of the van, he has most likely found himself right smack in the middle of another love triangle—although in fairness to Jack, this situation probably necessitates a geometrical shape with more sides. Perhaps a love quadrilateral, or love rhombus. (Yes, I like the love rhombus. Methinks that fits.)

But it seems like Sawyer was so content in his Dharma world. Like he was fitting in somewhere for the first time in his life.

So how is he going to feel about the return of his friends…and Kate?

Notable Quotes:
1)
Juliet: I think it’s over. I think John did it.
Jin: Now what?
Sawyer: Now we wait for him to come back.

2)
Sawyer: Thanks for getting my back on that whole beach thing.
Juliet: You should thank me; that was a stupid plan.

3)
Sawyer: Just keep your mouth shut and let me do the talking.
Miles: You really think you can convince them we were in a boatwreck.
Sawyer: I’m a professional; I used to lie for a living.

4)
Sawyer: Sonic fence? Didn’t I say let me do the talking?
Juliet: If Daniel took another step, it would have fried his brain.
Sawyer: His brain is already fried.

5)
Miles (While Horace is in talking to Sawyer): We’re screwed. He’s probably in there trying to explain time travel right now.

6)
Jin: Daniel, no more flash?
Daniel: No, no more flash. The record is spinning again. We’re just not on the song we want to be on…

7)
Miles: Mr. LaFleur?
Sawyer: It’s Creole. I improvised.
(Note: If only I could capture Miles’ tone in these quotes.)

8)
Sawyer: Your man out there with the eyeliner, let me talk to him.

9)
Juliet: James, are you sure you know what you’re doing?
Sawyer: Not yet, but I’ll figure something out.

10)
Dharma guy (when he sees other Dharma guy dancing with a girl): Are you kidding me? I’m gone ten minutes and you’re having a hootenanny?

11)
Dharma guy: What’s going to happen, the polar bears are going to find their way out of the cages?

12)
Dharma guy: Is that a hostile?
Other Dharma guy: Is that…Horace?
Dharma guy: Oh…he’s got dynamite. This is bad.

13)
Sawyer: Our fearless leader is out blowing up trees.
Miles: Why?
Sawyer: He’s loaded.
Miles: Since when does Horace drink?
Sawyer: He doesn’t, and that’s why we’re going to keep this on the down-low.
(Note: That’s pretty admirable for Sawyer. Is he covering for Horace out of respect for the man, or to protect the Dharma community? Either way, it’s a new side of Sawyer.)

14)
Sawyer: Juliet’s in there.
Jin: Juliet?
Sawyer: I pulled her out of retirement.

15)
Sawyer: I got good news and bad news, which you want first?
Horace: Good news.
Sawyer: You’re a daddy. Bad news is you missed it.

16)
Sawyer: I had a thing for a girl once, and I had a shot at her, but I didn’t take it. For awhile I’d lay in bed every night wondering if it was a mistake, wondering if I’d never stop thinking about her. And now I can barely remember what she looks like, and her face…she’s just gone. And she ain’t never coming back. So is three years long enough to get over someone? Absolutely.


Questions:

1) Why were Richard’s men—the hostiles—killing Paul and Amy? Doesn’t this violate their truce? Or were Paul and Amy violating the truce by wandering too far from the Barracks? Does the truce involve staying inside their sonic fence?


2) Apparently some people think that “the war” to which Widmore referred is The Purge, and our characters are going to help the DI survive the purge. This is interesting, and possible. But I have a couple problems with it. First of all, Ben is on the island now. And if it’s 1977, how long will it be before Ben’s dad brings young Ben to the island? That seems impossible, doesn’t it? Young Ben and current Ben in the same place?

3) I don’t think we’ll see young Ben come to the island while Sawyer and friends are still kicking it with the Dharma crew, but if we did, I think it’d be funny to see Sawyer interact with the young kid who will one day become the Benjamin Linus who tormented them. I just realized this isn’t a question at all, and I apologize for that. Here, let me fix that: Wouldn’t that be fun?

4) So where did Horace get the dynamite? Do they have their own supply, or did he make a trek over to the slave ship he told Sawyer he didn’t know about? If he got it from the Black Rock, did he lie to Sawyer, or is that a new discovery in the last three years?

5) Charlotte’s memory of Daniel telling her, when she was a child, that she would die if she came back the island…why does she say “I remember now…” near the end of her life? Is it because something changed and her future changed? Meaning, she couldn’t remember it until Daniel showed up on the island—in the past—and tells her this? And here’s the question that really intrigues me: Can Daniel not tell her this time? Or is that an element of history that is unalterable? Something which cannot be changed?

6) Why did the Hostiles/Dharma agree to a truce in the first place? And if they can manage a truce, why can’t they just get along? Richard and Horace both seem reasonable enough, right?

7) When Ben comes to the island, is Horace the leader of the Dharma folks? It didn’t seem like it, although he did seem important. His worksuit said “Mathematician”—another reason I thought he could be Faraday’s father. (Oh, and if you’re saying, but Elosie Hawking is his mother, not Amy…then I stand by my hunch/claim that Ms. Hawking is Daniel’s adopted mother.)

8) So if Horace is with Amy, and they give birth to a son, who is this Olivia Goodspeed he's with on the day of Benjamin Linus' birth? Back when they're driving outside Portland when Ben's dad carries his dying wife and newborn baby to the roadside where Horace and Olivia try to help them? I had assumed Olivia was his wife... (a quick lostpedia check revealed that Ben was born in the early 1960's, so it was a little over a decade ago that Horace was with an Olivia Goodspeed. Hmmm.) Olivia would later serve as Ben's teacher. So she's with Horace before Ben comes to the island, and she's still on the island once Ben is there, so it seems like she should be there now? But what's her connection to Horace? Any insights? (Note: Olivia's last name hasn't been revealed on the show, but ABC's website referred to her as Olivia Goodspeed, according to lostpedia.)

9) Richard always baffles me. But in 1974, Richard not only looks the same as he will 30 years later, but he's even dressed similarly. Yet just a few years after this, when Ben meets Richard in the woods, he's dressed a lot differently—more like a hippie. Why?

10) And a question dating back to the previous episode, "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham"...when we see Ben seeing Locke and Abaddon after Locke's heart to heart with Walt, Ben is dressed nicely. Wearing a tie, I'm pretty sure. If he found Locke because he had someone watching Sayid, he wouldn't have put on a tie to come spy on John. And I don't think LOST is careless enough to dress Ben up for no reason. So he must have been dressed up and in New York for something...but what?

11) By the end of this episode, it should be 1977, right? Three years after Sawyer said it was 1974. If Ben was born in the early 60's (lostpedia tells me its true), then shouldn't he be on the island by now? If not, he must be coming really, really soon...right?

12) Didn't Widmore tell Locke that Ben tricked him (Widmore) into leaving the island? So if Ben's not on the island yet, then Widmore still should be, right? Although, he'd be in Richard's camp, not in camp with the Dharma folk. How much do you want to bet that Ben and Widmore were once good friends? I don't want to bet anything, but I wonder...

13) This probably means nothing, but remember back in the day when the Others gave Michael a list of four names—and he was instructed to bring all of them to the Others? When this episode ended, who were the four standing and staring at each other?

—Thanks for Reading

4 comments:

Barbie said...

In response to Question #13...Although Jin was driving the van, he was technically there too. (or did I miss something?)

Tyler Charles said...

Yeah, Jin was there, but I didn't see him in the picture. I don't think he even got out of the van. So he wasn't really involved in the scene.

Yeah, question #13 is most likely irrelevant. It's not unusual that four main characters would show up in a scene together. I just happened to remember that list and I thought I would mention it.

I don't know why those four were put on the list in the first place. So maybe, must maybe, we're going to find out soon. Who knows?

Chad Burrus said...

First off, it's probably just a technicality, but weren't there two flashes at the beginning of the episode--the one we've seen before with Sawyer holding the rope sticking out of the ground and the gargantuan statue, and then the one that felt like an earthquake? Ok, enough nit-picking--moving on.....

About Dan and his "I'm not gonna...I won't...." routine, I think it's more the first one--he's trying/hoping to change things. Of course, I think his willpower starts breaking down as soon as we see Charlotte as a kid, but that's beside the point. Also, I think that once he begins to think a little more clearly, he'll realize that he has to talk to her, anyway--he's already done so in her mind, and if he doesn't, who knows what the future will hold? Changing one little thing like that in the past (his past) could really mess things up in his present (future) in unforeseen ways. (Time travel makes for some really interesting conundrums. Ever heard of the grandfather paradox? If so, you're just getting started on how weird it could get.)

(By the way, love all the names you came up with for the DI barracks. Well done.)

Sonic fence timeout--yeah, Juliet probably should have known, should have been paying attention, and should have thought about that possibility. However, Amy did mess around with the buttons on the fence, if I recall correctly, and so Juliet was probably put off by that. Personally, I think Amy turned the fence down so it wouldn't kill the others as they walked though the fence, but would just disable them.

Horace's reference to the "indigenous" people--caught that and liked it as well. Also, nice work on almost calling the DI dogs--at least I think the origin of the "Dharmatians" idea was "dalmatians"--correct me if I'm wrong.

Horace's/Jacob's cabin--the Others are scavengers--they take over the things other people bring to the island and use them for their own advantage. Once Horace and the DI are gone, it's fair game for Jacob to take over. At least that's my theory until proven otherwise.

Horace and the Black Rock--he's definitely lying, or at least not telling the whole truth. You could see it in his eyes.

(By the way, parenthetical insertions can be used to great effect when propelled by a wry wit. Just look at mine. :))

Dharma material--super smart, or at least darn close. Probably high-end scientific, as well. Juliet would probably fit in nicely--likewise with Daniel if he ever recovers. (Kind of doubtful, in my opinion--a full recovery probably isn't possible without some serious outside help. The time paradox alone could keep him in the nuthouse for a good long while--combine that with the loss of Charlotte, and we've got a recipe for some serious mental trauma.) Sawyer just doesn't act smart, at least not in the way they're looking for. (That's not to say he isn't--just to say he doesn't have the right aura about him.)

Richard and Sawyer--I don't think they met 20 years before--at least, I don't remember a time when they might have met. Sawyer was off with Locke, right, and Daniel, Miles, and Charlotte were the ones captured by the Others. Then when Daniel went off to defuse (for lack of a better term) the bomb, Locke went into the Others' camp by himself while Sawyer went off to rescue Daniel. Right? Oh, and Richard is definitely "Hoss." Not sure why--kind of slightly built to be considered a "Hoss," but I digress.

Paul's body--probably just the proof thing. Some quirk of the truce, maybe--kinda doubtful that they'd be feeding bodys to "Smoky" but I could be wrong.

I'm not sure why Amy and Paul would need to executed by the Others. Depends on what the truce actually entails, but I doubt it's related much to the sonic fence. After all, when Jack, Kate, and Hurley drop out of the sky by (or in) that lagoon, it's definitely outside the sonic fence, yet the Others didn't seem to be bothering Jin while he was wandering around out there. Very interesting....

(Fast forwarding about three years.....wait while I catch up, please.)

The mainland--America? The DI just seems like the type of organization to come from America, since they don't have the right accents for Russia, England, or France. (No offense intended to any of those countries--the DI wouldn't be something I would want to claim, either.)

The "obstetrician"--didn't he say he was just an intern? I think he was barely a doctor at all, and just a general practicianer if that. That's why he has no confidence in himself. (Plus without that lack of confidence, Juliet would still be stuck in retirement, and we can't have that, now can we? Car mechanic Juliet isn't as fun as Dr. Juliet--where'd she learn to work on cars, anyway?)

Sawyer's hair--only noticed it's "shininess" during the flower scene. Guess that Dharma shampoo must be really something.

Jin's hair--it was time for a change. :)

Baby boy--um...how could Amy's baby be Charlotte if Daniel saw her the night they showed up? Daniel's a slightly better option, but considering the fact that he wasn't getting nosebleeds with the rest of them, I kind of doubt it. Of course, he might have developed an extra-strong tolerence with all his time travel research, but I doubt it. Or I guess he could be getting off the island a lot sooner than Charlotte did, but....still feels off kelter to me.

Notable quotes notes:

2) Perfect delivery on Juliet's part.

13) I think he may actually respect Horace, at least as far as Sawyer respects anyone. Agreed that it's an entirely new side of Sawyer.

15) Great scene.

Questions:
1) Already said I doubt it's got something to do with the sonic fence, for reasons mentioned above. This one's still up in the air for me--not a clue why it happened in the first place.

2) Young Ben and current Ben in the same place could work out fine--there isn't really a contradiction there. It's weird, and complicated, but it could work. Still, I agree with you--I think the war is for the island in the "present," not the past.

3) That would be wonderful, actually.

4) I'm leaning towards the DI's dynamite theory. The watchmen didn't have the right kind of shock for it to have come from the Black Rock, and the way he was tossing it around suggested it was a lot fresher and more stable than that on the Black Rock. As drunk as he was, he'd have blown himself up with Black Rock dynamite.

5) I think she just remembered it because the pieces finally fell together in her mind. As for the altering of history, as I mentioned above, it's probably doable, but it could really mess something up.

6) The truce probably came about because of an impasse somewhere along the line, and because of the fact that they're both reasonable people. As for not getting along it's still the Others' island, is it not? They refuse to give up complete ownership, and only let the DI have what the Others want them to have.

7) If he wasn't, then who was the leader of the DI? Someone we didn't see?

8) Good question. Thought I had an answer, but not so much after doing a bit of research.

9) It was time for a change. :)

10) Not sure, though I do fine it interesting that the character's name was Abaddon. The name has an interesting Biblical history, though this Abaddon was considerablly less destructive than the one he was named after, at least as far as we know now.

11) Yes.

12) I doubt they were friends--more likely rivals, but yes, they probably knew each other well.

13) Yeah--just happenstance and means nothing more than what it was.

Sorry, missed the Sunday deadline by 4 minutes in my part of the world, but I'm still on time in yours. Good night.

Anonymous said...

We always enjoy the read--almost as much as the show. It refreshes our memories of the special moments and quotes! What other show can you spend more time talking about weekly than the time it takes to actually watch the show?!

A few notes from our '70's experience.

First of all, Bonnie and Clyde were real outlaws about whom I watched a movie in the '70's, which is currently being remade. Your use of them as a reference was applicable, only Sawyer/Juliet are much nicer and more concerned about others, at least now, than Bonnie and Clyde ever were!

Hair in the 70's, definitely long and flowing, (or a fro!) for men and women. Perhaps Jin is just fitting in!

Hootenanny seems a little 60's to me, but these Dharma utopian types probably clung to some of the 60's longer than most people! They seem more connected to the folksinging types than they are to hippie communes. But the constant presence of guns and things like dynamite and sonic fences are a whole new twist on the usual commune dwellers at that time!

In the real '74 I was graduating high school and meeting your Dad, whom you may remember I married in '77. Life is so much easier lived chronologically!

But I digress! One of the most striking parts of this show was seeing both Juliet and Sawyer genuinely happy and at peace, even while living a sort of make-believe existence in a time and place not their own. Of course it can't last, but it was nice to see. Back when Locke set up camp in New Otherton, Sawyer was content with the idea of living there and tried to persuade Kate to stay and build a life there. So something about this little commune lifestyle appeals to him. Jin is hanging in there, happy enough with friend Sawyer and thinking his wife and baby are somewhere safe in the future. It is harder to picture Miles or Daniel contentedly playing in this scenario.

We read something in TV Guide early this season which referred to Ben the elder crossing paths with young Ben, so I'm sure there is more fun ahead with that.

As to Richard's clothing style, the Others were quite fond of costumes by the time our friends landed, the first time. Who knows when or why that started!

Though nothing was said, there must have been something that Paul & Amy did that broke the truce as no one ever offers any sort of protest or complaint about Paul's death, or the plan to kill Amy. Since there are various Dharma stations around the island, they must have certain traveling privileges and not be limited to the fenced compound. If you'd innocently been minding your own business then been attacked by thugs who kill your husband, I think you'd complain a bit. I think they knew what they did wrong, and maybe they'll share that with us sometime, too!

One last, farout (ah, 70's!) thought. Did Amy and Paul have other children? Could Amy leave the island and take older daughter Charlotte with her?

I'm sure you're more up on these connections than I am, so set me straight! I think we'll be rewatching this series to sort it all out long after the last episode airs!